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Message  Clairvoyant Llorente le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 17:38

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Will the storyline of the Sha continue with Patch 5.1 or later patches?

For the most part, the Sha issues will be tackled by players in 5.0. BUT... not everyone wants to let sleeping Sha lie. Someone might start stirring up trouble beginning with the patches...

Will there be an appearance of the Burning Legion in the end of MoP?

The threat of the Burning Legion is still out there, and it's very much a threat to Azeroth. The mortal races are mostly focused on the current war, but not everyone has forgotten about what's out there and the challenges to come... Wrathion, in particular, is already trying to look ahead.

When will we see Sargeras, it's one of the reasons I've stuck around for so long...
Sargeras would be one monstrous raid boss! He's one of the most iconic, key villains of the franchise. Believe me, when he comes to Azeroth, you're going to feel it LONG before he even gets there.

At the end of the Klaxxi questline, the mantid mentioned that at one point in time, they worshipped Y'shaarj, an old god. However, he was slain by the Titans and was split into "shadows of his former self". Is he, in some way, in relations with the Sha and will we see Y'shaarj in future content patches?

Y'shaarj breathed love and exhaled hate, inhaled peace and breathed violence... Plus, his name was y'SHAarj. It's pretty safe to connect the dots. :smileyhappy: But Y'shaarj itself is very, very, very dead.

The story of Tides of War is really interesting. I don't think players can get engaged if they have no idea what's happening, the bomb dropping is really anticlimactic. I felt a bit disappointed so little got included in the scenario. Was this because of lack of time, of developers or because you rather keep all that info in the novels.

I've been watching the Theramore feedback closely, and this comment seems pretty universal. We tried to keep everything all in the scenario, to make it really self-contained, but not burden it with lots of story that you have to slog through every time you played the scenario. It's pretty clear from the feedback that people wanted more story. We should've surrounded the scenarios with more quests or explanations to help round out the story for the people who wanted to know what exactly was happening. Lesson learned!

Christie Golden mentioned in an interview that she worked closely with the quest team when she wrote Tides of War to make sure everything was very close. However, there are some notable differences between the book and the scenario during the Alliance side of it. Did the storyline of the scenario change late into the book's writing?

We worked hard to sync with Golden during development. The Alliance side of the scenario went through LOTS of iterations, including when it happend (before the attack? During the attack? After the attack?) Ultimately we went with the one that gave us the greatest gameplay. We want the events of the book and game to match as closely as possible, but we want the best book possible and the best game possible, so they won't be word-for-word identical. This can create some fun arguments. "Well, according to this book..." "YEAH, but I WAS THERE, MAN!" We work hard to make sure the discrepancies are minor, but we definitely don't struggle for perfection.

Is there anything to Jaina's words that it is "time to bring Dalaran down" to the land and that she is still in support of fighting against the Horde?


Jaina's story will continue starting in patch 5.1. We'll try to catch players up with where she is at the end of the book, and then move on from there.

Are we going to get more story-telling in scenarios? The Theramore scenario was lackluster compared to the book, key story elements haven't even been address in-game yet.(Kirin Tor leader)

I addressed this earlier, but keep in mind that we want scenarios to be replayable. We definitely didn't want to burden them with tons of story that you have to wade through every time you play it. As I said for Theramore, people obviously wanted more context, which probably was best served by some one-time quests on either end of the scenario. That's a lesson we're pulling forward.

Where do you see races that are neutral leaning like the Blood Elves going within the Horde? They seem rather separate from the Horde story since Cata's launch.


Stick around for patch 5.1 - we pick up the Blood Elves' story and propel it forward. Finally, a chance to interact with Lor'themar! Most players don't even know who he is.

There has been some speculation as to whether Turalyon and Alleria might make a triumphant comeback in Mists of Pandaria. Any comments on this, or are they saved for a later expansion pack?

The Alliance sure could use something to turn the tide of war.
There's no plan to continue their story in Pandaria. ..and also, I think the Alliance can take this!

"Turalyon and Alleria" is it possible in anyway to know if there are any plans to continue their story? I had HUGE hopes to see them in game when BC came out and their SON poped out of nowhere saying they where alive. anything would do!... plz!?


Oh, their story will continue!!

I have always wondered why the Alliance has continuously frowned upon the Scarlet Crusade. Their main purpose was to simply eradicate the undead. With their return in MoP, we are tasked with eliminating them -again- with the aid of Lillian Voss. Why is it that we have turned their organization down for so long when we more or less have the same goals in mind?


The complexities really aren't in the game, but the Scarlet Crusade was very much a rogue organization. Great priests and warriors who would've otherwise served the Alliance disappear into the crusade, who serves its own ends. (In Northrend, it was clear their leadership had succumbed to demonic influence. It's hard to make up for that.) To be honest, the main reason to revisit the Crusade in 5.0 was a gameplay reason and not a story reason - it was a favorite dungeon that we really wanted to revisit with new mechanics. We didn't think a lot of story was needed.

The reddit AMA gave some teasers that Sylvanas, Vol'jin, and Thrall (specifically in 5.1) would be integral parts to the story. Rexxar and Koltira were also mentioned. On the Alliance side, other than Varian, Anduin and Jaina are there any notable leaders/lore figures we can expect to see active through the Pandaria storyline?

Great question! Many of the Alliance leaders will come into play. Tyrande has a couple of moments in 5.1. We also want to do more with the dwarven storyline (we're still kicking around ideas of how best to do that.) The trick is making sure those characters have meaningful moments. We'll definitely spend a lot of time with Jaina and King Wrynn.

What exactly (If you can answer without spoiling the story line!) has turned Garrosh Hellscream into the monster we all hate now?


Garrosh is not a monster. He has a very clear vision of the Horde, and the future of the orcs, and he gives very little thought to anyone who stands between him and that future. As he gets more powerful, and gets away with more, his vision becomes clearer. This has put him in conflict in the Alliance, and ultimately will cause problems within the Horde.

Is the second son of DeathWing going to be the Second Prince? The achievement two Princes says that Wration and another 'Prince' will settle something important, is that true?


"Two Princes" is a placeholder name that may or may not reflect the final achievements in later patches. Suffice it to say, Wrathion's story will continue!

Where is N'Zoth? He was mentioned at Blizzcon, then was talked about in Dragon Soul. What is going on with him?!


N'zoth is still lurking. The Titans couldn't defeat it... maybe someday we'll get our chance? Don't expect to hear anything about him in Pandaria, though!

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Message  Clairvoyant Llorente le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 17:41

I have always wondered why the Alliance has continuously frowned upon the Scarlet Crusade. Their main purpose was to simply eradicate the undead. With their return in MoP, we are tasked with eliminating them -again- with the aid of Lillian Voss. Why is it that we have turned their organization down for so long when we more or less have the same goals in mind?


The complexities really aren't in the game, but the Scarlet Crusade was very much a rogue organization. Great priests and warriors who would've otherwise served the Alliance disappear into the crusade, who serves its own ends. (In Northrend, it was clear their leadership had succumbed to demonic influence. It's hard to make up for that.) To be honest, the main reason to revisit the Crusade in 5.0 was a gameplay reason and not a story reason - it was a favorite dungeon that we really wanted to revisit with new mechanics. We didn't think a lot of story was needed.

Deux choses. Déjà, le "The complexities really aren't in the game" a le mérite, comme je le comprend, arrêtez moi si je me trompe, d'expliquer que les relations entre la croisade et l'Alliance, comme je le dit depuis des années, vont plus loin que "allez taper ces croisés, champion de l'Alliance, ils veulent détruire les réprouvés", mais que le jeu ne permet pas de montrer les ambiguités entre les deux factions.

Ensuite, je suis content qu'ils avouent la merdasse loristique du monastère de MoP. C'aurait pu être pire disons.

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Message  Severnaya le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 17:47

Je crois qu'ils disent juste que l'Alliance et la Croisade avaient des relations ambiguës car tout les membres de la Croisade étaient des humains qui auraient pu être dans l'Alliance et combattre pour sa cause.

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Message  Clairvoyant Llorente le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 17:52

Oui c'est ce que je dis. Seulement IG on ne la voyait qu'à Vanilla cette ambiguïté, et très légèrement encore. Ça rejoint ce qu'ils expliquent.

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Message  Solona Naggalenta le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 18:28

Le jour ou ils mettent Sargeras en boss de raid, je pense qu'on pourra se dire que le RP sera fini.

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Message  Severnaya le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 18:42

Le jour où Elune sera un Naaru, où ils ressuciteront Illidan et / ou Arthas, etc je pense que ça sera déjà pas mal officialisé

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Message  Harken le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 19:08

Le jour où ils raseront Theramore pendant un world event mal fichu et dans un truc phasé dégeulasse je crois que... ho wait
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Message  Invité le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 19:40

Harken Dreadhowl a écrit:Le jour où ils raseront Theramore pendant un world event mal fichu et dans un truc phasé dégeulasse je crois que... ho wait

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Message  Darnat Sombrecoeur le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 21:29

Donc on a toujours été tué la Croisade écarlate pour le gameplay. Pas étonnant. Et on doit considérer que Wrynn leur déclare la guerre au final ou pas ?

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Message  Solona Naggalenta le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 21:53

Non, on la tue juste pour le gameplay a partir de cette mise a jour, parce que leur but principal en faisant revivre ces donjons était gameplay et non roleplay.

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Message  Erwarth le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:19

Vu que Korloff semble avoir appris les arts des ambassadeurs pandarens, il semble qu'une fraction de la Croisade soit "encore" là. Ils sont plus tenace que Kael'thas

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Message  Darnat Sombrecoeur le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:20

Bah les Pandas existent depuis longtemps donc ça ne choque pas. Perso' j'aimerais savoir si on peut encore faire un truc avec eux quoi.

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Message  Solona Naggalenta le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:22

Honnetement je pense qu'il faut en tenir compte autant qu'ils le disent : ils ont réouvert les donjons pour le gameplay plus que pour le roleplay. (Et quoi qu'il en soit, on bourre une nouvelle et dernière fois la croisade écarlate donc y'a rien a en faire)

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Message  Darnat Sombrecoeur le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:23

Tu parles à quelqu'un qui joue à Lordaeron.

PS : Et je veux quand même savoir. Même une petite escouade ça aide, c'est une faction cool.

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Message  Solona Naggalenta le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:31

Ca change rien à ma réponse. xD

D'autant que la description du boss cité par Ceralynde me fait gentiment sourire. En deux-trois semaines, il aurait donc appris et maîtriser tout l'art des moines, c'est impossible ! (ou alors les enseignements des moines sont drôlement restreints)

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Message  Darnat Sombrecoeur le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:33

Les Pandarens existaient avant, hein. Donc bon.

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Message  Solona Naggalenta le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:35

Oui mais on les découvre seulement maintenant. Avant c'était juste un truc légendaire. (A moins que ca ait été retcon)

Et encore une fois le re-retour de la croisade écarlate est plus gameplay que roleplay, inutile de chercher plus loin.

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Message  Clairvoyant Llorente le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:41

Non on connaissait déjà quelques pandarens avant. Dans le machin de donjon il est dit que Korloff a voyagé et apprit l'art du moine avant de devenir écarlate. Cela dit c'est nul selon moi, dans l'ancien mona y avait déjà des moines (avec un stuff plus cool) et on se faisait pas chier à relier ça aux pandarens.

Pour Kraboss : Rien ne t'empêche de sortir des survivants écarlates du fond de tes fesses. Ceux qui ne sont pas morts sont assez endurcis pour êtres des Robert Neville warcraftien, ça n'a absolument rien d'incroyable de dire que quelques petits groupes sont ça et là en Lordaeron, ni Balnazzar ni l o l Voss ne sont omniscients. C'est tout à fait crédible d'imaginer ça. Ce qui est navrant c'est que même si c'est tout à fait plausible, on verra jamais rien sur ça officiellement. Idem sur l’ambiguïté de relations entre Alliance et croisade, IG ça se traduira toujours par "Varian trouve que les immondes zélotes écarlates sont trop près de Stormwind, allez tous les tuer en plein territoire réprouvé".

Au pire il y a toujours Gibbons, qui ne mourra jamais, je l'ai décidé comme ça.


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Message  Thomas le Brave le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:42

Alexandros doit rager depuis sa tombe.
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Message  Clairvoyant Llorente le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:45

Non Alexandros serait devenu un croisé d'argent, je parle sérieusement. La BD est limpide à ce sujet pour moi.

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Message  Solona Naggalenta le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:50

Esteban Llorente a écrit:Non on connaissait déjà quelques pandarens avant. Dans le machin de donjon il est dit que Korloff a voyagé et apprit l'art du moine avant de devenir écarlate. Cela dit c'est nul selon moi, dans l'ancien mona y avait déjà des moines (avec un stuff plus cool) et on se faisait pas chier à relier ça aux pandarens.

Mais c'est ca quoi, avant y'avait des moines et on se disait pas "Non mais c'est les pandarens qui leur ont appris tkt". Je trouve ça tiré par les cheveux de dire que ce sont les pandarens qui amènent la capacité a se battre sans armes.

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Message  Clairvoyant Llorente le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:52

Je pense que c'était histoire de caser au maximum le mot "pandaren".

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Message  Darnat Sombrecoeur le Mer 19 Sep 2012, 22:53

Tu te vois expliquer ça aux gens ? "Alors ce sont des Moines mais pas les mêmes ^^"

Déjà que les gens pigent pas que prêtre ombre =/= Prêtre de Lumière et de nombreux exemples que je peux sortir...
Et oui c'est pour caser les Pandarens aussi, je pense.

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Message  Sénateur Blindecoffre le Jeu 20 Sep 2012, 02:00

- Will there be an appearance of the Burning Legion in the end of MoP?

The threat of the Burning Legion is still out there, and it's very much a threat to Azeroth. The mortal races are mostly focused on the current war, but not everyone has forgotten about what's out there and the challenges to come... Wrathion, in particular, is already trying to look ahead.

- When will we see Sargeras, it's one of the reasons I've stuck around for so long...

Sargeras would be one monstrous raid boss! He's one of the most iconic, key villains of the franchise. Believe me, when he comes to Azeroth, you're going to feel it LONG before he even gets there.

Peut-être serait-ce là l’occasion de donner à Jaedenar l’importance qu’elle mérite, grâce à un éventuel renouveau du Conseil des Ombres.

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Message  Severnaya le Jeu 20 Sep 2012, 06:59

Disons qu'avant les moines Écarlates, c'étaient des moines de D&D. C'était juste lui quoi :


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Maintenant, j'imagine que les moines du Monastère, ils ont des pouvoirs introduits par Mists of Pandaria, faut bien expliquer d'où ils sortent.

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